Sci.skeptic USENET post of Jan 5 1994 Re: Bob Lazar

Hi all,

I’ve just read the testimonial given by Robert Lazar who claims that he was a
member of a compartmentalized team of researchers that were reverse engineering
an extraterrestrial vehicle at site S-4 inside Area 51 within the Nevada Test
Site. My skeptical foundations are beginning to crumble, please debunk !

I’ve heard of strange rumours before, but until I really started reading up
on Bob Lazar (not through saucer rags mind you) and Area 51, I’m starting to
become a believer. Being a resident of the National Laboratory community, it
really unsettled me.

1.) Robert Lazar was a physicist at Los Alamos National Laboratory in New
Mexico. I’ve confirmed this by looking at an old LANL phone book. Why does the
U.S. Government claim they know nothing of him ? What are they trying to hide ?
I watched a court room scene with Mr. Lazar and a municipal judge was puzzled
because he could not find out what Mr. Lazar did for a living because the U.S.
Government would not provide any information other than w-2’s from the Naval
Research Laboratory. I get a sense of government cover up. I might add: I
recently mentioned Bob Lazar’s name in front of some visiting LANL researchers:

Their faces registered surprise and one pulled me aside and gave me a finger
across the throat gesture and said “Don’t talk about that here.”

2.) Mr. Lazar claims he had a security clearance 37 levels higher than a
Q-clearance (A DOE clearance which is roughly but not quite equivalent to a Top
Secret Clearance allows one with apropos need to know to work with secret
restricted data)
Mr. Lazar claims he received this Clearance by executive order from the office
of the President (Reagan). I have heard through the grape vine but with no
proof of very high compartmentalized clearances. I’m convinced they exist.

3.)Mr. Lazar claims Dr. Edward Teller referred him for the job function at Area
51 because of his jet propulsion background. Would be interesting to note if
Dr. Teller was ever asked about MR. Lazar and if he denies knowing or referring
him for this job function.

4.)Area 51. What goes on there ? Why so secretive ? From talking with people
who worked around that area in the past, I’ve found out some common points of
interest: a.) You are not allowed to ask about it. b.) It is an exclusion area
with deadly force authorized. c.) It has it’s own special response team and
security force, these security personnel have no nomenclatures on their uniform
and will not answer any questions. d.) all the people I have asked about it
have reported seeing strange lights above Groom lake. e.) personnel that have
limited access to Area 51 are blindfolded and escorted to their destination,
perform their job function and are blindfolded on the way back to Mercury.

5.) Bob Lazar claims he and others studied a saucer shaped object, he was part
of a team that were to reverse engineer the propulsion system, other
compartmentalized teams studied the metallurgy and communication systems. All
were highly advanced and were painstakingly and meticulously studied. There was
great worry of activating controls for fear of not being able to control it or
turn it off.

6.) Why did Bob Lazar come out with an outrageous story like this ? What does
he have to gain ? Lose ? As far as I know he still stands by his story.

7.) Has anybody here debated or debunked Bob Lazar’s claims ? I was a UFO
skeptic until I read his testimonial, I still find it unsettling.

8.) Can anyone here tell me the official sci.skeptic response to Bob Lazar’s
UFO reverse engineering story. I would really appreciate it.
I’m really interested of what Philipp J. Klass has to say about it.

Thanks for the help.

-Guy